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.358 JDJ
Over the years I have had several .35 Remington caliber barrels
for my TC Contenders. I have always found them to be very
accurate and mild recoiling barrels but sadly lacking in power
for game much bigger than deer. I have often promised myself to
"someday" send one to JD Jones at SSK Industries (590
Woodvue Lane, Wintersville, OH. 43953 AC 740-264-0176/7217) for
conversion into a real "Hand Cannon" the .358 JDJ.
ALL DATA BELOW IS FROM MY PERSONAL TESTING IN MY PERSONAL BARREL.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK AND DO NOT ASSUME YOUR BARREL AND MY BARREL
WILL GIVE THE SAME RESULTS. THEY MAY AND THEY MAY NOT. MY DATA
GENERALLY WAS DERIVED EITHER FROM THE ABOVE LISTED SSK DATA OR
FROM DATA ON THE .358 JDJ IN AN ARTICLE IN ISSUE # 153 OF
HANDLOADER MAGAZINE WRITTEN BY GARY SITTON. FOLLOW ALL NORMAL
HANDLOADING SAFETY PROCEDURES AND WORK UP TO THESE LOADS WHILE
WATCHING FOR PRESSURE SIGNS. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR
SAFETY--NOT ME.
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TESTED 7-20-98
OAL = 3.080" FOR SIERRA BTSP AND NOSLER PT
OAL = 3.150" FOR NOSLER BT
CASE : RP .444 MARLIN --> .358 JDJ
BULLET : SIERRA 225 BTSP 2245 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.75")
(3 @ 100 = 2.8")
BULLET : NOSLER 225 PT 2226 fps (3 @ 100 = 0.95")
BULLET : NOSLER 225 BT 2278 fps (5 @ 100 = 2.2")
(4/5 = 1.6")
POWDER: AA 2520 - 52.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
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TESTED 7-22-98
OAL= 3.020" FOR NOSLER PT
OAL = 3.150" FOR NOSLER BT
NOTE: PRIMERS BEGINNING TO FLATTEN--REDUCE LOAD BY ONE (1) GRAIN.
CASE : RP .444--> .358 JDJ
BULLET : NOSLER 225 PT 2224 fps (3 @ 100 = 5.4")
(3 @ 100 = 1.55")
BULLET : NOSLER 225 BT 2282 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.8")
(3 @ 100 = 2.0")
POWDER: AA 2520--52.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI-200
NOTE: Nosler 225 PT group #2 had 2/3 shots in 0.3" and
Nosler 225 BT group # 2 had 2/3 shots in 0.8".
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CASE : RP .444 --> .358 JDJ
BULLET : SIERRA 225 BTSP 2001 fps (3 @ 100 = 2.2")
(3 @ 100 = 1.2")
BULLET : HORNADY 180 SPSSP 2060 fps (3 @ 100 = 0.8")
(3 @ 100 = 0.9")
POWDER: IMR 4320 - 50.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
NOTE: Group #1 for the Hornady 180 had 2/3 shots in 0.8" and
group #2 had 2/3 shots in only 0.15".
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CASE : RP .444 --> .358 JDJ
BULLET : NOSLER 225 PT 2096 fps (3 @ 100 = 2.1")
(3 @ 100 = 1.3")
POWDER: BL - C2 - 48.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
NOTE: Group #1 had 2/3 shots in 0.05" (Not an error) and
group # 2 had 2/3 shots in 0.2".
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CASE : RP .444 --> .358 JDJ
BULLET : SIERRA 225 2038 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.8")
(3 @ 100 = 2.7")
POWDER: XMR 2495 - 50.6 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
NOTE: The first group had 2/3 shots in 0.5".
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TESTED 7-27-98
CASE : RP .358 JDJ
BULLET : NOSLER 225 PT 2201 fps (3 @ 100 = 3.5")
BULLET : NOSLER 225 BT 2195 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.2")
POWDER: AA 2520 - 51.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
NOTE: Nosler 225 PT group had 2/3 shots in 1.7".
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CASE : RP .358 JDJ
BULLET : SIERRA 225 2114 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.1")
(3 @ 100 = 1.8")
BULLET : NOSLER 225 BT 2135 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.9")
(3 @ 100 = 1.0")
POWDER: XMR 2495 - 52.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
NOTE: Sierra 225 Group #1 had 2/3 shots in 0.5" and Nosler
225 BT Group #1 had 2/3 shots in 0.9".
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CASE : .358 JDJ
BULLET : SIERRA 225 2085 fps (3 @ 100 = 2.1")
BULLET : NOSLER 225 BT 1895 fps (3 @ 100 = 3.8")
POWDER: BL - C2 - 49.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
NOTE: Sierra 225 had 2/3 shots in 0.25".
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CASE : RP .358 JDJ
BULLET : SIERRA 225 2083 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.9")
(3 @ 100 = 1.8")
BULLET : NOSLER 225 BT 2077 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.7")
POWDER: IMR 4320 - 51.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
NOTE: Sierra 225 Both groups had 2/3 in 0.9". Nosler 225 BT
had 2/3 in 0.5" for group noted. I fired another group of 3
also but the point of impact was so high on paper the way the gun
was sighted in I lost one of them. The other two were only
0.7" and the third could have been as close as 1.5" -
2" but I couldn't pick it out in all the holes in the well
used backer board.
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TESTED 8-3-98
CASE : RP .358 JDJ
BULLET : HORNADY 200 SP 2268 fps (3 @ 100 = 2.95")
(3 @ 100 = 3.85")
BULLET : RP 200 PSP-CL 2214 fps (3 @ 100 = 2.95")
POWDER: AA 2520 - 54.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
NOTE: Hornady 200 SP Group # 1 had 2/3 shots in 1.0"
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CASE : RP .358 JDJ
BULLET : HORNADY 200 SP 2160 fps (3 @ 100 = 2.95")
BULLET : RP 200 PSP-CL 2188 fps (3 @ 100 = 2.2")
POWDER: IMR 4320 - 52.8 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
NOTE: Hornady 200 had 2/3 shots in 0.9" as did the RP 200
PSP-CL.
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TESTED 8-20-98
CASE : RP .358 JDJ
BULLET : NOSLER 225 BT 2178 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.7")
(3 @ 100 = 1.8")
BULLET : NOSLER 225 PT 2141 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.8")
POWDER: AA 2520 - 51.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : CCI - 200
Note: Nosler 225 BT group #2 had 2/3 in 0.5".
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TESTED 9-4-98
CASE : RP .358 JDJ
BULLET : NOSLER 225 BT 2228 fps (3 @ 100 = 1.9")
BULLET : NOSLER 225 PT 2276 fps (3 @ 100 = 2.75")
POWDER: AA 2520 - 51.0 GRAINS
PRIMER : WIN LR MAG
NOTE: Both loads put 2/3 shots in 0.5" with a flyer each
time opening the groups to the numbers noted above.
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TESTED 9-16-98
CASE : RP .358 JDJ ONCE FIRED CASES (FIRE FORMED ONLY)
BULLET : NOSLER 225 BT
BULLET : NOSLER 225 PT
POWDER: AA 2520 - 51.5 GRAINS
PRIMER : WIN LR MAGNUM
NOTE: This is the load that was selected for use on the combo
mule deer/elk hunt in Colorado in October 1998. I didn't fire it
across the chronograph this day since it was only a one-half
grain increase in powder from the previous test. I believe the
velocities will be slightly over 2250 fps for the BT and right on
2300 fps for the PT. I did fire a single group with each of them
on the above day and the results were: BT: 3 @ 100 = 2.9"
with 2/3 in 0.55" and for the PT: 3 @ 100 = 1.8" with
2/3 in 0.25". I have since fired numerous groups with these
two loads and when I do my part they can keep 3 in an inch at
100. Most often two are touching or very nearly so and the third
is off from them by a half inch to as much as a couple of inches
depending on how well I'm holding that day.
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The .358 JDJ is serious handgun medicine. Meant to be taken when
you need something for sure 'nuff big game. Sure it'll work for
deer and even turkey as I proved in the fall '98 hunting season
here in Alabama. But it is at its best when pitted against bigger
and tougher game like big boar hogs, elk, moose, and even bear.
I personally think this is a superior round to the much more
highly touted .375 JDJ except for use in Africa where the minimum
caliber of .375 is often required. Bullets of .375" are made
for use in either the .375 H&H Magnum or the sedate .375
Winchester. Those for the .375 H&H are intended to be driven
at 2650-2700 fps in the 250/270 grain weight range and the JDJ
struggles to get them up to 1950-2000 fps. I just don't see how
they can be expected to expand properly from the JDJ beyond 100
yards when launched at those velocities. Bullets for the .375
Winchester are all flat nosed and shed velocity quickly. Bullets
of 220 grains can be driven to about 2250 fps according to data
from SSK but the one most commonly used is intended for the .375
Winchester and is a bit soft for that velocity. Should be an
excellent performer where expansion is required and quick put
downs are wanted. From what I read it lives up to that.
Bullets in .358" are made for either the .35 Remington and
are round nose or for the .358 Winchester/.35 Whelan. Bullets for
the former in 200 grain round nose configuration at 2300 fps out
of the .358 JDJ are moving only about 300 fps faster than from
the .35 Remington in a rifle which is what they were designed to
do. They should be very terminal on thin skin game like deer at
that velocity. Bullets of 225 to 250 grains designed for the .358
Win/.35 Whelan are designed to be pushed about 2300 to 2600 fps
and the .358 JDJ can get them up to 2300 for the 225s and about
2200 for the 250s. That's a lot closer to design spec than the
.375" bullets from the .375 JDJ. So, my conclusion is the
.358 JDJ is one fine round for the really big stuff. Try it and
you'll like it, but hang on tight because it is bad at both ends.